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PostPosted: Sun Aug 14, 2005 5:26 pm
User avatarCridaperPosts: 13970Location: WolverhamptonJoined: Mon May 31, 2004 4:00 am
Blue850 off RetroRides has muttered something about selling his Mk1 Triumph 2000. Says he's sick of the strombergs and the worn gear selectors. Could be cheap since he got the car free!



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PostPosted: Sun Aug 14, 2005 5:29 pm
User avatarHulkaruthersPosts: 5017Location: London, The SouthJoined: Wed Jun 23, 2004 4:00 am
What's wrong with Strommys?

Keep an eye on it for me please :)



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PostPosted: Sun Aug 14, 2005 5:47 pm
User avatarPosts: 2743Location: RUSTJoined: Sat Nov 27, 2004 5:00 am
daveyboy wrote:
I've heard the 320 is supposed to be terrible, the entry level 6 pot is supposed to be under-powered. I've heard the 318, particularly the 318iS is supposed to be the pick of the bunch along with the bigger engined 325i.


Not totally true.
316 / 316i No no no no no. Performance on par with a 1400 astra. Non-injected versions are both slow, thirsty AND unreliable.
Very boggo spec on most too.

Standard 318i is a gutless wonder, no urgency at all.
That said, the base block is very closely related to the block used in th old BMW F1 cars, and they could take 1000++ bhp. So if you want to, (and are mega wealthy) they can be tuned.

318iS has a different engine again. Twin-cam, 16-valve etc, revs like crazy. Also has full disc set up from M3, ABS and properly sorted suspension. 2-door only

320i is very out of favour, owing to it being slower than a 318iS, worse handling and thirstier.
That said, the do make ALOT of sense, because they are MEGA CHEAP. They also go very nicely (will still embarrass chavs / repmobiles) and the straight-six makes a glorious, glorious noise.

325i / SE / Sport is a bigger version of above. A bit faster, but alot thirstier. Lots of folk swear by 'em, but running costs are crazy, and the extra weight of the the big engine blunts the handling. Sports go for fucking ridiculous money. OK, so they are well spec'd but FFS!

M3 - Forget it. Unless you have £10k+++ kicking around for a minter, plus a six-figure income to keep it on song don't even torture yourself. My dream car.

Oh and JC - that triumph 2000 MWF is on about is in Republic of Ireland. Ferries are VERY expensive this time of year.....


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PostPosted: Sun Aug 14, 2005 7:25 pm
User avatarPosts: 632Location: Hemel HempsteadJoined: Wed Mar 02, 2005 5:00 am
Good info there Pog, sounds like 318iS is the one to go for then, see I wasn't far off the mark there was I?



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PostPosted: Sun Aug 14, 2005 7:42 pm
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It's horses for courses really.

the 318iS is a superb car - well balanced, quick and not too thirsty. The downsides are not alot of torque, and now they're starting to command silly money, as alot of folk have twigged how good they are. Also the 2-door only-ness can be a downer if you want a bit more space. The engines cost an arm and a leg if they need rebuilding too.

A 320i or 325i comes in all body styles and make for effortless motorway crusing.

For day-to-day all-rounderness a 318i makes alot of sense, as while not stupendously fast, they're not mega thirsty, and there's less bits to go wrong.


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PostPosted: Wed Aug 24, 2005 8:03 pm
User avatarCridaperPosts: 13970Location: WolverhamptonJoined: Mon May 31, 2004 4:00 am
Apparently there was a 2.8 manifold, Holly carb and air filter for sale at the RS National Day at the weekend, all for £100.



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PostPosted: Wed Aug 24, 2005 9:54 pm
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MWF wrote:
Apparently there was a 2.8 manifold, Holly carb and air filter for sale at the RS National Day at the weekend, all for £100.


Doh, missed that one :(



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PostPosted: Thu Aug 25, 2005 9:15 am
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MWF wrote:
Offenhauser appear to make a manifold to mount a Holley.


Once you have a Holley you need one of these:

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and one of these:

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to get lots of these:

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PostPosted: Thu Aug 25, 2005 9:30 am
User avatarCridaperPosts: 13970Location: WolverhamptonJoined: Mon May 31, 2004 4:00 am
Nice presentation ad!



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PostPosted: Fri Aug 26, 2005 6:56 am
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I heard that BMW don't make a 1600 engine, That in fact theyr all 1800 with different engine managment/ carbs set up, Is this true???


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PostPosted: Fri Aug 26, 2005 8:18 am
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The 316-badged e30 models were actually an 1800 with different fuelling (and more povo specification). I had a 316 carb (pierburg) for a bit. It was very cack!

AFAIK the 316 e21 and 1602 models were a 1600 displacement though.


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PostPosted: Fri Aug 26, 2005 3:01 pm
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Soooooooooooooo, a bogo 316 or 316i would technically be more tunable and as the spec is lower, you could make it faster than a 318i Is this correct? Not that I'd ever even attempt to tune an N/A engine that small expecting mega perforamance.



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PostPosted: Fri Aug 26, 2005 7:59 pm
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Well the base block is the same (pretty much) on all 4-cylinder models: An evolution of the M10 unit....

And is also the same (again pretty much) as the legendary Lola racers (700bhp) of the 70's and BMW F1 turbo cars of the 80's (1500bhp :shock: ) so in theory, just about anything is possible.

In the real world however, taking a bog stock 316 carb and binning off the pierburg unit in favour of something big and weber shaped will give very good improvements for not a massive outlay.

Although if it's cheap thrills you're after, and you're not mega bothered about handling etc, stuffing a 3.5 liter 'big' six in one is not a particularly hard job. There was one such beast at RCS (looked proper rough outside) running some very impressive times.


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