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PostPosted: Sun Oct 19, 2008 1:31 pm
User avatarJoeyannePosts: 6454Location: WolverhamptonJoined: Sun Jun 06, 2004 4:00 am
Matt Wilcox wrote:
Joey wrote:
That's a bit crap, very crap indeed. How come you don't just use the webmail?


Well I like to have Thunderbird on my laptop because I've then got my full Email archive offline, which is useful. And I'd rather use the mail app on the iPhone because it's a bit quicker and better integrated than having to fire up Safari and use the Gmail mobile interface. Mail on iPhone makes sounds and stuff when you get one, for example.


I completely understand you using it on the iPhone, I love the iPhone Mail App and wouldn't dream of using the web interface for GoogleMail on there. I just wondered why you used Thunderbird, are you ever actually using your PC when you're offline?



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PostPosted: Sun Oct 19, 2008 1:48 pm
User avatarBiggest Nappy EvaPosts: 6922Joined: Mon May 31, 2004 4:00 am
I use thunderbird all the time, rather than Gmail's web app. It just makes more sense for me. I like Gmail, but I like it for the features and service it offers - the user interface is not the best. Basically a local client works better for me than a cloud client.

Good suggestion Chris. The only trouble I have with IMAP is that every time I've seen it used it spends literally hours re-downloading every single mail you've ever sent or recieved. I already have them on my system. I'll look into the Gmail documentation and see if there's a smarter way of switching from POP to IMAP. And whether the iPhone supports IMAP.



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PostPosted: Sun Oct 19, 2008 2:13 pm
User avatarJoeyannePosts: 6454Location: WolverhamptonJoined: Sun Jun 06, 2004 4:00 am
Matt Wilcox wrote:
Good suggestion Chris. The only trouble I have with IMAP is that every time I've seen it used it spends literally hours re-downloading every single mail you've ever sent or recieved. I already have them on my system. I'll look into the Gmail documentation and see if there's a smarter way of switching from POP to IMAP. And whether the iPhone supports IMAP.


I believe it does as I use IMAP for Google - when I go to Settings on the GoogleMail website I have IMAP enabled but POP disabled. It also has a link to a guide about setting it up for use on the iPhone.



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PostPosted: Thu Oct 30, 2008 2:40 pm
User avatarBiggest Nappy EvaPosts: 6922Joined: Mon May 31, 2004 4:00 am
If you need to use your iPhone as a dictaphone there's a new app out that's free for a limited time:

http://www.italksync.com/

Google Earth is out and it's very cool if not entirely useful



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PostPosted: Thu Oct 30, 2008 3:21 pm
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Matt Wilcox wrote:
If you need to use your iPhone as a dictaphone there's a new app out that's free for a limited time:

http://www.italksync.com/

Google Earth is out and it's very cool if not entirely useful


eh, surely maps is basically google earth, also check out RJDJ !!



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PostPosted: Thu Oct 30, 2008 4:29 pm
User avatarBiggest Nappy EvaPosts: 6922Joined: Mon May 31, 2004 4:00 am
Google Earth is Google Earth. That's why Google Maps isn't called Google Earth. They do rather different things.

Plus (and this you will like) Earth is far more "check this cool shit out!" than Maps.



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PostPosted: Thu Oct 30, 2008 5:04 pm
User avatarBiggest Nappy EvaPosts: 6922Joined: Mon May 31, 2004 4:00 am
Not feeling RJDJ. Clever concept, but not my bag baby.



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PostPosted: Sun Nov 16, 2008 9:16 pm
User avatarBiggest Nappy EvaPosts: 6922Joined: Mon May 31, 2004 4:00 am
And this is why I call it "the jesus phone"

Turn your iPhone into a guitar tuner with this application: http://www.yonac.com/software/tune-o-rama/



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PostPosted: Thu Jan 15, 2009 12:31 pm
User avatarCridaperPosts: 13970Location: WolverhamptonJoined: Mon May 31, 2004 4:00 am
Just checking up on how you are finding the iPhone at the mo Jimi, thinking of getting a couple for the business on contract.



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PostPosted: Thu Jan 15, 2009 3:13 pm
User avatarBiggest Nappy EvaPosts: 6922Joined: Mon May 31, 2004 4:00 am
It's a bit polar to be honest.

On the plus side:

I use it constantly for its tinternet enabled services. If I'm doing the dishes I'll pop it in a sandwich bag, pin the bag to my cork-board and watch episodes of Top Gear as I clean up. I tweet and check twitter constantly, the facebook application is nice. For general web browsing it's definitely useful to have (only the other night I used it to get the Tiscali support phone number at my landlord's because his net was down), but it's too slow and too small to want to do it very often (slow rendering, and it doesn't cache pages so browsing is annoying). The iPod is great, use it in the car all the time. The maps application and Around Me application are damn useful if you're out and about somewhere new. The way it handles SMS is great, it's exactly like an IM client, full conversation history and such.

On the negative:

As a phone it's pretty wank. You can't send or receive Vcards - so despite it being the phone of the future you still have to resort to a fucking pen and paper if you want to swap contacts with someone. It doesn't support MMS, which as a phone of the future is pathetic. The ass backward workaround of opening Safari, going to the O2 website, logging in using your phone number (I can never remember) and MMS PIN (I can never remember) is shoddy in the extreme, and you can't even reply to the message. Nor does it tell you who it's from until you log-in. Applications crash, and when they crash they don't free-up system memory, so after a while applications become less stable. A re-boot fixes it, but it's still a bit rubbish. No copy and paste. Which is criminal considering the type of use a phone like this gets - it's not possible to SMS someone a hyperlink or snippet of text you've seen on the phone in Safari. The bastard thing alerts you THREE TIMES per SMS you get - which is the most annoying thing, it'll beep once, then again a few minutes later, and again a few minutes after that. There's no "silent means fucking silent" mode. It's either going to beep at you or it's going to vibrate at you. If your phone happens to be resting on your bedside cabinet at 2am and some drunk friend sends an SMS, it's going to wake you up. And then again five minutes later. And again five minutes after that. Unless you turn it off entirely. I don't have a Mac so I don't have iCal, so I can't sync the calendar. There's no windows application that'll allow you to sync or create/edit calendar events. Making the calendar pretty useless. I want iCal on my phone, which you can have IF you have a Mac, but the phone on it's own doesn't do the job well enough. The camera is absolutely useless unless you happen to live in Spain and it's the middle of Siesta time. It has no low-light capability whatsoever. It's also laggy as hell so don't think you're going to capture a nice moment, you'll capture the immediate aftermath of whatever it was you wanted to capture. There's no character count on the SMS screen, so you'll regularly fire off multi-SMS messages which eat into the wank 500 SMSs allowance.



All in all, I love it, and it was a great buy. But I can't help feeling it's a flawed bit of genius. I'd rather it as is than have an iPod Touch & a phone. But the price of having a ubiquitous device is the fact that it is simply an inferior phone to most other phones. Fucking great little gizmo, fun and very useful, but less than stellar phone.



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PostPosted: Thu Jan 15, 2009 3:29 pm
User avatarItsukiPosts: 4790Location: TeanJoined: Sat Jun 05, 2004 4:00 am
My contract's up in March/April and it was quite interesting to hear your thoughts on the iPhone too Jimi... I have umm'd and arr'd over the pluses and minuses and the most annoying thing about it all is that really I don't want an iPhone, I want the iPhone contract... :cry:

I don't know how good the SE Xperia is:

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... but as an example, to get that on an equivalent iPhone contract as far as I can work out I would have to buy the tinternet bolt-on, meaning I would pay £43 a month, not £35 for the same contract (but on an iPhone). Both phones are £100 to buy...

It's just frustrating that I use MMS a lot, can't get unlimited texts in that £35 iPhone contract and realised the other night that I would have to install iTunes if I got an iPhone too... :wall:



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PostPosted: Thu Jan 15, 2009 3:37 pm
User avatarCridaperPosts: 13970Location: WolverhamptonJoined: Mon May 31, 2004 4:00 am
Thanks for the full objective report Jimi! More than I could have hoped for!



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PostPosted: Thu Jan 15, 2009 3:42 pm
User avatarPosts: 307Location: Stoke-on-TrentJoined: Thu Apr 28, 2005 4:00 am
I can pretty much echo Jimi on this one. The iPhone is mega brilliant in some respects while being painfully crap in others. For business it's a double edged sword really. As Jimi points out the support for sending/receiving contacts is woeful, and you can't forward an sms someone has sent you either. You also can't send receive files over bluetooth, my t68 could do that!

It does however plug into our exchange server, which updates the phone with all my emails and calendar appointments quicker than they appear on my PC!



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PostPosted: Thu Jan 15, 2009 3:50 pm
User avatarCridaperPosts: 13970Location: WolverhamptonJoined: Mon May 31, 2004 4:00 am
Yeah Joey has got her IPod working with Exchange although hers takes ages to sync.

I don't use MMS and rarely use SMS plus can't remember when I last used a vCard. Bluetooth I do use sometimes to connect to my SatNav in the car.

to be honest there's little to but me off there at all, my only real concern is if there's any rumour of a V3 iphone out there?



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PostPosted: Thu Jan 15, 2009 3:53 pm
User avatarBiggest Nappy EvaPosts: 6922Joined: Mon May 31, 2004 4:00 am
No worries.

I'd love to use the phone for email, I can imagine it would be very good for that (except the lack of copy paste), but I've not got the patience to switch my Gmail from POP to IMAP, because it'd mean hours and hours of faffing with thunderbird in order to keep mails in their current folders and so forth.

Also, as Daws points out - the iPhone contract is rubbish. £35/m for a measly 500 SMS is bad, and there's no way to up that, or exchange minutes for SMS (I never use more than 20min call time a month, so it angers me). That's an O2 complaint rather than an iPhone one though, and it's bound to happen when one carrier gets a monopoly on a device.

The iPhone UI though - very very good. Vastly superior to any other phone I've used.



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